Big Sur hides more fonts, like the 101 Noto Sans fonts in the Supplemental folder. You can’t view a Big Sur drive in any meaningful way from Catalina or older MacOS'es. Under MacOS BigSur security has taken an even bigger step than before, its's a Signed System Volume, much like iOS. In contrast to MacOS Ventura under MacOS Montery you can with third party font managers (aka RightFont, Typeface, Connect Fonts and FontAgent) disable the Supplemental folder fonts and thus the Noto Sans fonts. See therefor and read also the Typeface help tip here. It depends highly on the used MacOS version, since Apple continiously changed the security levels and APIs in their OS'es.įor example in MacOS Ventura things are restricted much more now here and even third party font managers (.which used Apple's APIs to disable/remove fonts etc.) can't perform such tasks any longer. But this thread (and this is not the only one related to listing of macOS system or hidden fonts) shows that I am not the only ignorant user who feels frustrated. I may of course be totally wrong, and just do not understand how the OS is designed to work. In these apps, it also means that you get the long Noto lists (unless you choose to create your own lists and hide them)- and still fully expectedly continue to get them after doing something like I did in Font Book to get plain vanilla lists shown in all Affinity apps - but also that you get fonts like Seravek, even if you do not have history of using these fonts earlier in these apps, or documents created by them. in VectorStyler and Adobe apps, are results of apps deliberately enumerating fonts hidden by the OS. The “own font management” kinds of solutions that we see e.g. I mean: I did not do anything at all in Affinity apps, or even in Finder, to get it work. Accordingly, that the OS suddenly starts to behave in a way the user wants to, and apps start to show plain vanilla OS font enumerations without burden of history, is a kind of a miracle, caused by playing around a while in great wise Font Book. I think that this behavior is “by design” of Apple, and dependent on OS and user history, but just backfires, and as is typical, the (l)user “does not need to” be directly in charge, to be able to easily correct the problem. Seravek and other so called Document support fonts available publicly in earlier OS versions), are, IMO, not results of Serif doing anything their own way. I meant to say that I think that the problems related to Noto (or things like not being able to show e.g. It was late, and I expressed myself poorly above. I do not know probably there is a way but I have no idea how deep you need to go to crack the system behavior, and as the problem is fixed (for me at least), and I only get the designed minimum of five Notos now in Affinity apps, I am not interested in going further. My simplistic takeaway from that is the 5 'required' Noto font families can't be disabled even with the help of 3rd party apps.
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